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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189621281" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189621281">(Mar 03 2020 at 18:40)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-group-mention" data-user-group-id="1380">@WG-learning</span> Meeting in 20 minutes</p>



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<p><span aria-label="wave" class="emoji emoji-1f44b" role="img" title="wave">:wave:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189622983" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189622983">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:00)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-group-mention" data-user-group-id="1380">@WG-learning</span> meeting time! <span aria-label="wave" class="emoji emoji-1f44b" role="img" title="wave">:wave:</span> everyone, please add your <span aria-label="wave" class="emoji emoji-1f44b" role="img" title="wave">:wave:</span> so we know who is participating</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189623021" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189623021">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:01)</a>:</h4>
<p>so the goal of this meeting is to decide what is going to be our focus for the next 2 months, so March and April</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189623034" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189623034">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:01)</a>:</h4>
<p>in this document <a href="https://hackmd.io/75x4U2e1Qp2f-lg7V09nGA?both" target="_blank" title="https://hackmd.io/75x4U2e1Qp2f-lg7V09nGA?both">https://hackmd.io/75x4U2e1Qp2f-lg7V09nGA?both</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189623040" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189623040">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:01)</a>:</h4>
<p>going to paste what's relevant here</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189623078" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189623078">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:01)</a>:</h4>
<p>we have a set of ideas that we <strong>may</strong> want to accomplish</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189623084" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189623084">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:01)</a>:</h4>
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<li>
<p>Define how would we want to structure the guide</p>
<ul>
<li>Make it more engaging to read?</li>
<li>Move procedures to forge or to an appendix?<ul>
<li><a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/rustc-guide/stability.html" target="_blank" title="https://rust-lang.github.io/rustc-guide/stability.html">https://rust-lang.github.io/rustc-guide/stability.html</a></li>
<li><a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/rustc-guide/implementing_new_features.html" target="_blank" title="https://rust-lang.github.io/rustc-guide/implementing_new_features.html">https://rust-lang.github.io/rustc-guide/implementing_new_features.html</a></li>
<li><a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/rustc-guide/stabilization_guide.html" target="_blank" title="https://rust-lang.github.io/rustc-guide/stabilization_guide.html">https://rust-lang.github.io/rustc-guide/stabilization_guide.html</a></li>
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<p>Write an Overview chapter</p>
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<li>Overview of the whole picture of the compiler. Main components, what they do and where they live. Main data structures used along and more or less what they are about.</li>
<li><a href="https://hackmd.io/j8EsXGI1RiOnjZSiSRf3ng?view" target="_blank" title="https://hackmd.io/j8EsXGI1RiOnjZSiSRf3ng?view">Overview Outline</a></li>
<li>Overview blog post (coming soon...)</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Write a walkthrough section about what the compiler does to your code<ul>
<li>It may also be nice to have a concrete example that shows all the compilation phases, artifacts and structures generated along the way.</li>
<li>walk through compilation of simple program</li>
<li>link to other chapters for details</li>
<li>This is more like what the compiler does and how it works high level</li>
<li>[@Chris Simpkins] Succinct summary of how to visualize each representation stage of the compile process (e.g., <code>cargo rustc -- -Zunpretty=hir-tree</code> for HIR)</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Write a walkthrough about how a full feature is implemented<ul>
<li>Show how a particular feature was implemented by explaining every corner of the compiler that was touched</li>
<li>Explain all the technical aspects considered when implementing</li>
<li>This is more like what is needed top to bottom level to implement a full feature</li>
<li><a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rustc-guide/issues/584" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rustc-guide/issues/584">https://github.com/rust-lang/rustc-guide/issues/584</a></li>
<li>Centril said: Or-patterns have fully recorded their implementation history, so it might be a good "from start to finish" example: <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/54883" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/54883">https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/54883</a></li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Collect a set of PRs that help understanding some parts of the compiler<ul>
<li>Would be nice if we can collect PRs that are interesting to understand certain things</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189623166" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189623166">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:02)</a>:</h4>
<p>my proposal for the meeting is:</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189623212" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189623212">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:03)</a>:</h4>
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<li>discuss if we want to accomplish those tasks and define them a bit better</li>
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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189623242" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189623242">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:03)</a>:</h4>
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<li>prioritize the ones we pick to go after</li>
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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189623295" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189623295">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:04)</a>:</h4>
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<li>decide what's doable to accomplish in the next 2 months</li>
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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189623327" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189623327">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:04)</a>:</h4>
<p>does this plan sound good?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189623351" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189623351">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:04)</a>:</h4>
<p>ok, let's proceed then</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189623364" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189623364">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:04)</a>:</h4>
<p><strong> 1. discuss if we want to accomplish those tasks and define them a bit better </strong></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189623394" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189623394">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:05)</a>:</h4>
<p>we have these tasks</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189623414" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189623414">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:05)</a>:</h4>
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<li>[ ] Define how would we want to structure the guide</li>
<li>[x] Write an Overview chapter</li>
<li>[ ] Write a walkthrough section about what the compiler does to your code</li>
<li>[ ]Write a walkthrough about how a full feature is implemented</li>
<li>[ ] Collect a set of PRs that help understanding some parts of the compiler</li>
</ul>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189623443" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189623443">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:05)</a>:</h4>
<p>removed sub-bulleting for brevity</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189623505" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189623505">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>those are all things I'd like to accomplish at some point</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189623525" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Léo Lanteri Thauvin <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189623525">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>Overview is already WIP, I'd guess it has already recieved enough feedback to push it in the next 2 months</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189623539" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189623539">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>but that's obvious because I was the one that wrote the most polemic ones <span aria-label="joy" class="emoji emoji-1f602" role="img" title="joy">:joy:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189623561" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Chris Simpkins <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189623561">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:07)</a>:</h4>
<p>Can you elaborate on what "how we want to structure the Guide" means?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189623653" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189623653">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:08)</a>:</h4>
<p>ok yeah I can elaborate that instead of wasting time trying to make checkboxes on the list :P</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189623695" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189623695">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:08)</a>:</h4>
<p>Zulip...</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189623724" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189623724">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:09)</a>:</h4>
<p>so what I meant is ... I have the feeling that the order of the chapters could be improved</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189623729" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189623729">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:09)</a>:</h4>
<p>some things could be moved to forge</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189623740" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189623740">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:09)</a>:</h4>
<p>like for instance ...</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189623761" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189623761">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:09)</a>:</h4>
<p><a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/rustc-guide/stability.html" target="_blank" title="https://rust-lang.github.io/rustc-guide/stability.html">https://rust-lang.github.io/rustc-guide/stability.html</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189623766" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189623766">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:09)</a>:</h4>
<p>and things like that</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189623773" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189623773">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:09)</a>:</h4>
<p>not saying that that's not important</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189623852" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189623852">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>my feeling is ... as <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116009">@nikomatsakis</span> once said, we need to make the guide more focused on understanding how the Rust compiler works</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189623857" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Léo Lanteri Thauvin <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189623857">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>But it's not required to understand the compiler</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189623869" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Léo Lanteri Thauvin <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189623869">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>That's what you mean?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189623873" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189623873">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>Personally, I'm against moving things to the forge. I feel that the forge is really more for things that only compiler/lang team members would do</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189623906" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189623906">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:11)</a>:</h4>
<p>so ... I'd try to avoid to discuss two things at the same time :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189623909" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189623909">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:11)</a>:</h4>
<p>whereas stabilization etc are things that anyone can do...</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189623911" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Chris Simpkins <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189623911">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:11)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>Personally, I'm against moving things to the forge. I feel that the forge is really more for things that only compiler/lang team members would do</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Maybe an appendix then?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189623927" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189623927">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:11)</a>:</h4>
<p>I mean, I'm not sure where to move that, maybe to an appendix</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189623952" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189623952">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:11)</a>:</h4>
<p>but the first thing would be ... wouldn't be better if the guide just try to explain how the compiler works?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189623970" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189623970">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:11)</a>:</h4>
<p>recently I've started reading the guide since the beginning and trying to read it as if it was a book</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189623976" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189623976">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:11)</a>:</h4>
<p>from cover to cover</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189623988" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189623988">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>to be honest it's a bit boring <span aria-label="joy" class="emoji emoji-1f602" role="img" title="joy">:joy:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189624037" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Léo Lanteri Thauvin <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189624037">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>Imo it's lacking examples</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189624058" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189624058">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>I wanted to go to the meat of the thing</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189624062" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Léo Lanteri Thauvin <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189624062">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>It makes the book quite difficult to follow sometimes</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189624064" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189624064">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:12)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="255061">LeSeulArtichaut</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler.2Fwg-learning/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E03/near/189624037" title="#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler.2Fwg-learning/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E03/near/189624037">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>Imo it's lacking examples</p>
</blockquote>
<p>yeah, also that</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189624095" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189624095">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>so ... I'm not trying to say what we should do, all I'm trying to say is that there's a lot of room for improvement</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189624098" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189624098">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>in the readability</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189624109" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189624109">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>in what's the focus of the guide</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189624119" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189624119">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>in what one should be getting out of it</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189624124" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189624124">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>and so on</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189624135" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189624135">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>Perhaps one question is this:</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189624286" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189624286">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:15)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="116266">Santiago Pastorino</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler.2Fwg-learning/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E03/near/189623988" title="#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler.2Fwg-learning/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E03/near/189623988">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>to be honest it's a bit boring <span aria-label="joy" class="emoji emoji-1f602" role="img" title="joy">:joy:</span></p>
</blockquote>
<p>to be a bit more clear, because I don't want to diminish the effort a lot of people put in the guide ... what I meant is ... I want to learn how the compiler works, reading from cover to cover you end reading a lot of things that do not go in that direction</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189624290" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189624290">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:15)</a>:</h4>
<p>currently, the guide is more of documentation about a bunch of the compiler's parts, rather than a book per se. That is, it's currently written so that one would learn about a particular part of the compiler that they want to work on. Do we want it to be more of a book that one would actually read from beginning to end?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189624320" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189624320">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:15)</a>:</h4>
<p>all the content is great, it's just that's not exactly what I've expected to read</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189624382" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189624382">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:16)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116266">@Santiago Pastorino</span> Yep, I can definitely sympathize. I don't think I've ever tried to read it beginning to end, though I have read all of it at various points in time</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189624406" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189624406">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:16)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="198054">mark-i-m</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler.2Fwg-learning/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E03/near/189624290" title="#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler.2Fwg-learning/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E03/near/189624290">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>currently, the guide is more of documentation about a bunch of the compiler's parts, rather than a book per se. That is, it's currently written so that one would learn about a particular part of the compiler that they want to work on. Do we want it to be more of a book that one would actually read from beginning to end?</p>
</blockquote>
<p>I think it depends on the time and effort we can put on</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189624445" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189624445">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:16)</a>:</h4>
<p>I meant, it's easier to just add content and will always probably have more priority and easier costs to do that</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189624451" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189624451">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:16)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think it also depends a bit on the audience... do we expect people to try to read it from cover to cover or just certain parts?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189624465" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> amanjeev <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189624465">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:16)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think someone once said here that we do not want it to be a "how to build a compiler" course. Not sure if that still stands.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189624471" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189624471">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:16)</a>:</h4>
<p>but I guess it's something that we can plausibly do, going for a modality that is more like a book</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189624487" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Iñaki Garay <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189624487">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>I seem to recall that the overview chapter was the first step in providing a more comprehensible structure from which each part could be explored i more detail.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189624489" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Chris Simpkins <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189624489">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>^^</p>
<p>The Overview might be an opportunity to collect thoughts about cohesion as an end-to-end textbook on the compiler.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189624517" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189624517">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>exactly what <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="209053">@Iñaki Garay</span> and <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="262810">@Chris Simpkins</span> just said</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189624529" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189624529">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>we are making some efforts in that same direction in my opinion</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189624582" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189624582">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:18)</a>:</h4>
<p>it's not that we want to sprinkle parts of content into the guide</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189624586" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Iñaki Garay <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189624586">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:18)</a>:</h4>
<p>in addition to that, perhaps some attention could be paid to how one chapter connects to the next?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189624599" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189624599">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:18)</a>:</h4>
<p>with examples, overview and other parts we seem to want something that gives more like a structure</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189624634" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189624634">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:19)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="209053">Iñaki Garay</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler.2Fwg-learning/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E03/near/189624586" title="#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler.2Fwg-learning/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E03/near/189624586">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>in addition to that, perhaps some attention could be paid to how one chapter connects to the next?</p>
</blockquote>
<p>totally, I think it's hard to do all this but something that would be better for the guide</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189624656" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189624656">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:19)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="209053">@Iñaki Garay</span> I think that is a bit hard because the chapters are often written by domain experts who don't have time/interest in the literary aspects of the guide and just want to document there subcomponent of the compiler</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189624662" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189624662">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:19)</a>:</h4>
<p>but I agree it would be good</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189624679" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189624679">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:19)</a>:</h4>
<p><span aria-label="+1" class="emoji emoji-1f44d" role="img" title="+1">:+1:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189624696" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Iñaki Garay <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189624696">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:19)</a>:</h4>
<p>then our efforts would be best put into other tasks.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189624703" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189624703">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:19)</a>:</h4>
<p>as everything, we need to lay out what can we do in that direction if we wanted to accomplish something</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189624757" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189624757">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>there are zillions of things we could do, there may be some easy wins there</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189624781" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189624781">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:20)</a>:</h4>
<blockquote>
<p>do we expect people to try to read it from cover to cover or just certain parts?</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Sorry, I want to come back to this. Which direction do we want to go?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189624792" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Léo Lanteri Thauvin <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189624792">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>What should be mentioned, is where one particular bit of code will be used. That, along with the Overview, could give the book cohesion</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189624799" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189624799">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'm fine with either</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189624825" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189624825">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:21)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="255061">LeSeulArtichaut</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler.2Fwg-learning/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E03/near/189624792" title="#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler.2Fwg-learning/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E03/near/189624792">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>What should be mentioned, is where one particular bit of code will be used. That, along with the Overview, could give the book cohesion</p>
</blockquote>
<p>maybe the first steps are just this ones</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189624866" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189624866">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:21)</a>:</h4>
<p>well maybe now I'm starting to think that this may be a good idea, but we first have the Overview and other things that would serve for those purposes</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189624898" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189624898">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:21)</a>:</h4>
<p>so in any case, it seems that that objective is better to have it around and look in a next sprint and not in this one</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189624957" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189624957">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>maybe after having the Overview up we can re-discuss</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189624958" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189624958">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189625009" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189625009">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>ok, let's move on then</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189625039" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Léo Lanteri Thauvin <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189625039">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:23)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="198054">mark-i-m</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler.2Fwg-learning/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E03/near/189624781" title="#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler.2Fwg-learning/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E03/near/189624781">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<blockquote>
<p>do we expect people to try to read it from cover to cover or just certain parts?</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Sorry, I want to come back to this. Which direction do we want to go?</p>
</blockquote>
<p>What if the compiler expends further? It will basically be impossible to have everything in mind, right? Even as of today, I don't think there is a single person that is familiar with the whole codebase</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189625126" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Léo Lanteri Thauvin <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189625126">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:24)</a>:</h4>
<p>Sorry, you said to move on, nevermind me ^^</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189625154" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189625154">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:24)</a>:</h4>
<p><span aria-label="+1" class="emoji emoji-1f44d" role="img" title="+1">:+1:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189625164" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189625164">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:24)</a>:</h4>
<p>one other thing from the list that I'd like to do is</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189625167" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189625167">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:24)</a>:</h4>
<p><code>Collect a set of PRs that help understanding some parts of the compiler</code></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189625174" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189625174">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:24)</a>:</h4>
<p>that's something that's kind of easy to do</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189625189" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189625189">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:24)</a>:</h4>
<p>and we can start with something if we want that and then improve or shape it better</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189625205" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189625205">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:25)</a>:</h4>
<p>I know Niko and others expressed support for this, but I'm still a bit skeptical</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189625222" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189625222">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:25)</a>:</h4>
<p>Can you give an example of what sort of PR you are thinking of</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189625233" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189625233">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:25)</a>:</h4>
<p>?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189625243" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Léo Lanteri Thauvin <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189625243">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:25)</a>:</h4>
<p>It's not something that I can do. If I ever see a low hanging fruit, I'm just going to take it <span aria-label="sweat smile" class="emoji emoji-1f605" role="img" title="sweat smile">:sweat_smile:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189625259" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189625259">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:25)</a>:</h4>
<p>ouch, I was not prepared for that question</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189625262" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189625262">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:25)</a>:</h4>
<p>let me see</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189625328" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Léo Lanteri Thauvin <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189625328">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:26)</a>:</h4>
<p>Maybe I can help answer</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189625335" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189625335">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:26)</a>:</h4>
<p>maybe this one <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/pull/47954" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/pull/47954">https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/pull/47954</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189625343" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189625343">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:26)</a>:</h4>
<p>also <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/pull/48300" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/pull/48300">https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/pull/48300</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189625369" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189625369">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:27)</a>:</h4>
<p>there was a PR that in the mir-opt-wg we were using as an example of adding a pass</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189625393" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189625393">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:27)</a>:</h4>
<p>but I think there are a lot of PRs that may help to understand certain parts of the code without all the hassle of writing a chapter</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189625403" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Chris Simpkins <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189625403">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:27)</a>:</h4>
<p>I suppose that one concern about that approach is how evergreen the PR's are and whether anyone will revisit this information to update it in a way that they would (?) with text content as things change in the codebase.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189625468" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189625468">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:28)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah, if done should have a huge warn about that</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189625504" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189625504">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:28)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="262810">@Chris Simpkins</span> That's a good question. I suspect that they will bitrot a bit, but generally, I've found that things are often "similar enough" that a reasonable guess can be made</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189625509" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189625509">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:28)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="262810">Chris Simpkins</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler.2Fwg-learning/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E03/near/189625403" title="#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler.2Fwg-learning/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E03/near/189625403">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>I suppose that one concern about that approach is how evergreen the PR's are and whether anyone will revisit this information to update it in a way that they would (?) with text content as things change in the codebase.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>but at the same time everything needs to be updated</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189625562" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189625562">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:29)</a>:</h4>
<p>We could try to make a cookbook appendix or something like that</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189625570" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189625570">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:29)</a>:</h4>
<p>yep</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189625595" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189625595">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:29)</a>:</h4>
<p>where we make a big table "how to xxx" -&gt; "see PR YYY"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189625647" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189625647">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:30)</a>:</h4>
<p>exactly</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189625652" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Chris Simpkins <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189625652">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:30)</a>:</h4>
<p>Love the idea of a cookbook style approach</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189625669" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189625669">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:30)</a>:</h4>
<p>maybe we can start with an appendix and then if some things make sense we can move some parts into the sections</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189625693" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189625693">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:30)</a>:</h4>
<p>ok</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189625709" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189625709">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:30)</a>:</h4>
<p>should we continue with the discussion of next tasks?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189625743" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189625743">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:31)</a>:</h4>
<p>actually the other two are ...</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189625748" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189625748">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:31)</a>:</h4>
<div class="codehilite"><pre><span></span>[ ] Write a walkthrough section about what the compiler does to your code
[ ]Write a walkthrough about how a full feature is implemented
</pre></div>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189625764" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189625764">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:31)</a>:</h4>
<p>I expect these to take some time if we do them</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189625777" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189625777">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:31)</a>:</h4>
<p>which given that may be debatable,  .... exactly</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189625798" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189625798">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:31)</a>:</h4>
<p>I was going to say, let's leave these out of this next sprint</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189625867" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189625867">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:32)</a>:</h4>
<p>in that sense we have ...</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189625909" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189625909">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:33)</a>:</h4>
<ul>
<li>Write an Overview chapter</li>
<li>Collect a set of PRs that help understanding some parts of the compiler</li>
</ul>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189625917" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189625917">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>just these two, right?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189625923" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Chris Simpkins <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189625923">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>There was discussion at the last meeting about expert interviews/screencasts or something along those lines.  Is content expansion in the Guide still on the roadmap?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189625947" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189625947">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>Yes</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189625971" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189625971">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>There was some discussion about filling out the backend stuff</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189626035" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189626035">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:34)</a>:</h4>
<p>but I think we are short on experts who have time atm, and I still need to go through the doc that nagisa made last time</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189626159" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189626159">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:36)</a>:</h4>
<p>so we ended saying that this <code>Define how would we want to structure the guide</code> is better tackled by doing first the Overview section and then we can come back to it, right?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189626197" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189626197">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:36)</a>:</h4>
<p>just to make sure I understand, our decisions so far have been:</p>
<ul>
<li>Define how would we want to structure the guide: we may want to make it more readable end-to-end, but we want to do an overview and talk more about this later</li>
<li>Write an Overview chapter: want to do this this sprint</li>
<li>Write a walkthrough section about what the compiler does to your code: postpone</li>
<li>Write a walkthrough about how a full feature is implemented: postpone</li>
<li>Collect a set of PRs that help understanding some parts of the compiler: try as a cookbook-style appendix at first</li>
</ul>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189626221" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189626221">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:36)</a>:</h4>
<p>that's what I was trying to do, you made it perfect <span aria-label="+1" class="emoji emoji-1f44d" role="img" title="+1">:+1:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189626237" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189626237">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:36)</a>:</h4>
<p>on top of that ... what we already had in the form of tasks was ...</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189626267" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189626267">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:37)</a>:</h4>
<ul>
<li>[x] [@mark-i-am] Document our sprint like process</li>
<li>[ ] [@mark-i-am] Schedule a lecture about codegen mir -&gt; llvm IR with @nagisa</li>
<li>[x] [@spastorino] Schedule meetings for the next couple of months</li>
<li>[ ] [@spastorino] Schedule a lecture about Parallel with @nikomatsakis, @simulacrum or @Alex Crichton</li>
<li>[ ] [@spastorino] Schedule a lecture about LLVM with @Alex Crichton</li>
<li>[ ] [@spastorino] Schedule a lecture about monomorphization/type memory layout with @oli</li>
<li>[ ] [@spastorino] Changing name to rustc-dev-guide or rust-compiler-dev-guide (rcdg?) as per <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rustc-guide/issues/470" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rustc-guide/issues/470">https://github.com/rust-lang/rustc-guide/issues/470</a>?</li>
<li>[x] [@Chris Simpkins] Write a blog post about the Overview chapter effort<br>
    - The idea would be like a call for action, for people to help us shape a good Overview chapter<br>
    - Could be something like ... we are writing an Overview chapter, here is an idea of what could look like, please give your insights on things you would include<br>
    - <a href="https://hackmd.io/dXf8Ydq4R4SDrbY1VpPfUA" target="_blank" title="https://hackmd.io/dXf8Ydq4R4SDrbY1VpPfUA">Blog post outline / drafts</a></li>
</ul>



<a name="189626364"></a>
<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189626364" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189626364">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:38)</a>:</h4>
<p>have updated to reflect which ones are done</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189626415" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189626415">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:38)</a>:</h4>
<p>but basically we wanted to coordinate 4 lectures or from the list as many as we can and we wanted to rename the guide</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189626421" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189626421">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:38)</a>:</h4>
<p>right?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189626465" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189626465">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:39)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189626468" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189626468">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:39)</a>:</h4>
<p>that's a lot</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189626491" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189626491">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:39)</a>:</h4>
<p>should we focus on the overview and not new chapters this sprint?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189626498" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189626498">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:39)</a>:</h4>
<p>from the ones I have I doubt it's possible to get more than 2 :)</p>



<a name="189626571"></a>
<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189626571" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Léo Lanteri Thauvin <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189626571">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:40)</a>:</h4>
<p>Maybe we can work on both the Overview and the Walkthough (what the compiler does to your code)</p>



<a name="189626584"></a>
<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189626584" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189626584">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:40)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="198054">mark-i-m</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler.2Fwg-learning/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E03/near/189626491" title="#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler.2Fwg-learning/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E03/near/189626491">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>should we focus on the overview and not new chapters this sprint?</p>
</blockquote>
<p>yes that would be the focus, but remember that scheduling a lecture and maybe even having the lecture means maybe 2hs of effort for us in this sprint</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189626606" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Léo Lanteri Thauvin <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189626606">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:40)</a>:</h4>
<p>Those two seem very close to one another</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189626625" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189626625">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:41)</a>:</h4>
<p>agree on that <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="255061">@LeSeulArtichaut</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189626657" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189626657">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:41)</a>:</h4>
<p>Hmm... I see</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189626660" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189626660">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:41)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="116266">Santiago Pastorino</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler.2Fwg-learning/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E03/near/189626584" title="#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler.2Fwg-learning/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E03/near/189626584">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="198054">mark-i-m</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler.2Fwg-learning/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E03/near/189626491" title="#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler.2Fwg-learning/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E03/near/189626491">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>should we focus on the overview and not new chapters this sprint?</p>
</blockquote>
<p>yes that would be the focus, but remember that scheduling a lecture and maybe even having the lecture means maybe 2hs of effort for us in this sprint</p>
</blockquote>
<p>we can summarize that lecture on a different sprint, my idea with this is that it takes time to schedule and have a lecture. I wouldn't wait until we are done with chapters</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189626683" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189626683">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:42)</a>:</h4>
<p>otherwise, we may be blocked by not having what to summarize</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189626727" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189626727">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:42)</a>:</h4>
<p>Ok, I guess that can work</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189626743" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189626743">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:42)</a>:</h4>
<p>to sum up then ...</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189626830" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189626830">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:43)</a>:</h4>
<p>well was writing a summary but first ...</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189626908" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189626908">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:44)</a>:</h4>
<p>do we want an overview and a walkthrough of what the compiler does to your code?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189626910" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189626910">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:44)</a>:</h4>
<p>or is it just one chapter?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189626945" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189626945">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:44)</a>:</h4>
<p>I would say one chapter</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189626965" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189626965">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:45)</a>:</h4>
<p>seems good</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189626983" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189626983">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:45)</a>:</h4>
<p>anyway, once we have something we are going to see that more clearly so I'm kind of fine with either</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189626995" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189626995">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:45)</a>:</h4>
<p>that could be defined before landing the stuff</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189627000" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189627000">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:45)</a>:</h4>
<p>so now yeah, to sum up ...</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189627137" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189627137">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:47)</a>:</h4>
<ul>
<li>Write an Overview chapter, include a walkthrough section about what the compiler does to your code</li>
<li>Do a cookbook-style appendix for PRs that help understanding some parts of the compiler</li>
<li>[ ] [@mark-i-am] Schedule a lecture about codegen mir -&gt; llvm IR with @nagisa</li>
<li>[ ] [@spastorino] Schedule a lecture about Parallel with @nikomatsakis, @simulacrum or @Alex Crichton</li>
<li>[ ] [@spastorino] Schedule a lecture about LLVM with @Alex Crichton</li>
<li>[ ] [@spastorino] Schedule a lecture about monomorphization/type memory layout with @oli</li>
<li>[ ] [@spastorino] Change the name of the guide to rustc-dev-guide</li>
</ul>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189627149" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189627149">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:47)</a>:</h4>
<p>that seems to be our sprint</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189627382" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189627382">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:50)</a>:</h4>
<p>ok, is there something else we want to discuss?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189627444" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Chris Simpkins <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189627444">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:50)</a>:</h4>
<p>Timeframe for sprint?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189627467" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189627467">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:50)</a>:</h4>
<p><span aria-label="scream" class="emoji emoji-1f631" role="img" title="scream">:scream:</span>  we finished early?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189627473" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189627473">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:50)</a>:</h4>
<p>March + April?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189627506" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189627506">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:51)</a>:</h4>
<p>another thing that it may be good is to have small sync meetings</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189627509" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189627509">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:51)</a>:</h4>
<p>Perhaps one other thing is to decide on some milestones to keep us on track?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189627524" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189627524">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:51)</a>:</h4>
<p>yep</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189627546" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189627546">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:51)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah and also that</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189627581" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189627581">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:51)</a>:</h4>
<p>meetings, should we have every two weeks?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189627636" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Chris Simpkins <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189627636">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:52)</a>:</h4>
<p>I can do another run through on the blog post and have this ready by next week.  I would appreciate feedback from the team here if you have any thoughts about what is currently there.  Don't be shy about editing it.  And add your name to the author list if you do.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189627688" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189627688">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:52)</a>:</h4>
<p>we should publish that too <span aria-label="smile" class="emoji emoji-263a" role="img" title="smile">:smile:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189627695" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Chris Simpkins <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189627695">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:52)</a>:</h4>
<p>Specifically, the FAQ list could use better examples of what we are trying to prompt readers to weigh in on</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189627848" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Chris Simpkins <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189627848">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:54)</a>:</h4>
<p>Santiago do you need help with the rustc-dev-guide transition? I took a look at the ripgrep dump of "rustc-guide" in the rust repo yesterday.  There is quite a bit there</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189627907" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189627907">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:54)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah so about those two things I'd say, let's create Zulip threads, discuss and move forward things async</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189627914" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189627914">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:54)</a>:</h4>
<p>Also, fixing links in the rust-lang/rust repo and forge</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189627931" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189627931">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:55)</a>:</h4>
<p>yep</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189627945" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189627945">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:55)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="116266">Santiago Pastorino</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler.2Fwg-learning/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E03/near/189627581" title="#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler.2Fwg-learning/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E03/near/189627581">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>meetings, should we have every two weeks?</p>
</blockquote>
<p>two weeks? weekly? other ideas?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189627975" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189627975">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:55)</a>:</h4>
<p>two weeks seems ok</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189627989" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189627989">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:55)</a>:</h4>
<p>I can create the events</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189628004" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189628004">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:55)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="198054">mark-i-m</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler.2Fwg-learning/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E03/near/189627509" title="#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler.2Fwg-learning/topic/Meeting.202020.2E03.2E03/near/189627509">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>Perhaps one other thing is to decide on some milestones to keep us on track?</p>
</blockquote>
<p>now this ^^^ :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189628073" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189628073">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:56)</a>:</h4>
<p>is it doable to do that in 3 mins? :P</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189628123" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189628123">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:56)</a>:</h4>
<p>another thing we could do is to try to come up with the milestones async</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189628173" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Chris Simpkins <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189628173">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:57)</a>:</h4>
<p>rustc-dev-guide transition, blog post published, and outline for Overview for next every other week meeting?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189628286" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189628286">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:58)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah, that makes sense, let's define things until our next meeting</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189628313" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189628313">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:58)</a>:</h4>
<p>and what <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="262810">@Chris Simpkins</span> have said makes sense</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189628325" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189628325">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:58)</a>:</h4>
<p>so ... I guess this is all?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189628346" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> mark-i-m <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189628346">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:59)</a>:</h4>
<p>We finished on time :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189628362" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189628362">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:59)</a>:</h4>
<p>being 7.59pm UTC we have finished</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189628365" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189628365">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:59)</a>:</h4>
<p>congrats everyone!!!</p>



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<p><span aria-label="smiley" class="emoji emoji-1f603" role="img" title="smiley">:smiley:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting%202020.03.03/near/189628380" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Chris Simpkins <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/196385-t-compiler/wg-rustc-dev-guide/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E03.html#189628380">(Mar 03 2020 at 19:59)</a>:</h4>
<p>Thanks all! <span aria-label="wave" class="emoji emoji-1f44b" role="img" title="wave">:wave:</span></p>



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<p><span aria-label="wave" class="emoji emoji-1f44b" role="img" title="wave">:wave:</span></p>



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<p>thanks everyone!!!</p>



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<p>\o</p>



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